{"id":88,"date":"2021-01-08T09:31:35","date_gmt":"2021-01-08T08:31:35","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/ellversons-blogg\/?p=88"},"modified":"2021-01-08T09:31:36","modified_gmt":"2021-01-08T08:31:36","slug":"det-icke-sjalvklara","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/ellversons-blogg\/2021\/01\/08\/det-icke-sjalvklara\/","title":{"rendered":"Det icke sj\u00e4lvklara"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Till det sj\u00e4lvklara st\u00e4ller man inga fr\u00e5gor. F\u00f6r oss som nutida v\u00e4ster-<br>l\u00e4nningar \u00e4r det sj\u00e4lvklart att m\u00e4nniskan \u00e4r en kroppslig varelse som<br>lever h\u00e4r p\u00e5 v\u00e5r jord. D\u00e4remot kan v\u00e5r eventuella andlighet ge upphov till<br>fr\u00e5gor och funderingar. F\u00f6r n\u00e5gra i den unga Kyrkan under de f\u00f6rsta<br>\u00e5rhundradena var det precis tv\u00e4rtom. De hade en platoniserande<br>v\u00e4rldsuppfattning och f\u00f6r dem var det sj\u00e4lvklart att m\u00e4nniskan var<br>en andlig varelse skapad f\u00f6r ett himmelska liv hos Gud. Men varf\u00f6r<br>skulle hon d\u00e5 f\u00f6rst leva p\u00e5 v\u00e5r jord?<br><br>Origenes heter en teologisk gigant. Han var verksam p\u00e5 200-talet i <br>Alexandria som vid den h\u00e4r tiden var en l\u00e4rdomsstad. Origenes menade <br>att m\u00e4nniskan fr\u00e5n b\u00f6rjan inte allas levt p\u00e5 v\u00e5r jord utan hos Gud i<br>himmelen. Men d\u00e4r skedde ett syndafall och m\u00e4nniskan skickades<br>till jorden f\u00f6r att f\u00e5 en chans till omv\u00e4ndelse och b\u00e4ttring. Det finns<br>en pedagogisk avsikt med v\u00e5rt liv h\u00e4r p\u00e5 jorden. De h\u00e4r tankarna v\u00e4ckte<br>dock inget geh\u00f6r inom Kyrkan och p\u00e5 den h\u00e4r punkten tog man<br>avst\u00e5nd fr\u00e5n Origenes.<br><br>Gregorius av Nazians<br><br>Hundra \u00e5r senare kom en ung man till Alexandria f\u00f6r studier. Han hette<br>Gregorius av Nazians och skulle l\u00e4ngre fram bidra till slutarbetet av den<br>Nicenska trosbek\u00e4nnelsen. Kanske tog han intryck av Origenes tankar<br>f\u00f6r \u00e4ven Gregorius menar att n\u00e5got m\u00e5ste ske med m\u00e4nniskan under<br>hennes liv p\u00e5 jorden.<br><br>M\u00e4nniskan var fr\u00e5n b\u00f6rjan visserligen syndfri men hon var omogen och<br>hade \u00e4nnu inte tagit st\u00e4llning. &#8221;Detta var den h\u00f6gsta Godhetens vilja,<br>att g\u00f6ra det goda till v\u00e5rt eget, inte endast nedlagt i v\u00e5r natur, men<br>utvecklat genom v\u00e5rt fria val och genom v\u00e5r fria vilja, som kan r\u00f6ra<br>sig \u00e5t tv\u00e5 h\u00e5ll.&#8221;  (Oratio 2.17) M\u00e4nniskan har f\u00e5tt en fri vilja och <br>utrustats med f\u00f6rm\u00e5gan till ett fritt val f\u00f6r att hon sj\u00e4lv skall kunna v\u00e4lja<br>det som \u00e4r gott och l\u00e5ta det bli hennes eget.<br><br>N\u00e4r jag en g\u00e5ng i 30-\u00e5rs\u00e5ldern m\u00f6tte en del av de h\u00e4r tankarna i nutida<br>ortodox teologi (Se under rubriken &#8221;F\u00f6r att v\u00e4xa&#8221; ) s\u00e5 var det detta som<br>hj\u00e4lpte mig vidare i min kristna tro. Jag beh\u00f6ver nu p\u00e5minna mig om detta,<br>f\u00f6r nu blir jag snarare upprorisk. Varf\u00f6r satte du, Gud denna varelse<br>p\u00e5 v\u00e5r jord? Vad t\u00e4nkte Du p\u00e5? Se hur det gick! Nog hade denna v\u00e4rld<br>och alla dess varelser haft det betydligt b\u00e4ttre utan oss!<br><br>PS<br>1. Liknande tankeg\u00e5ngar som Gregorius utvecklar m\u00f6ter man redan hos<br>Ireaneus. Han kom fr\u00e5n Mindre Asien och blev senare biskop i Lyon.<br>2. Jag har skrivit utf\u00f6rligare om detta i &#8221;F\u00f6dd utanf\u00f6r paradiset&#8221; Verbum<br>1985, och i &#8221;The Dual Nature of man&#8221;, Uppsala 1981.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Till det sj\u00e4lvklara st\u00e4ller man inga fr\u00e5gor. F\u00f6r oss som nutida v\u00e4ster-l\u00e4nningar \u00e4r det sj\u00e4lvklart att m\u00e4nniskan \u00e4r en kroppslig varelse somlever h\u00e4r p\u00e5 v\u00e5r jord. 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