{"id":4993,"date":"2016-07-30T07:00:00","date_gmt":"2016-07-30T05:00:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/?p=4993"},"modified":"2016-07-29T21:09:41","modified_gmt":"2016-07-29T19:09:41","slug":"att-lasa-om-hoga-tal-i-bibeln-som-luther","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2016\/07\/30\/att-lasa-om-hoga-tal-i-bibeln-som-luther\/","title":{"rendered":"Att l\u00e4sa om h\u00f6ga tal i bibeln som Luther"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_4994\" style=\"width: 388px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2016\/07\/IMG_2412.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-4994\" class=\"size-full wp-image-4994\" src=\"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2016\/07\/IMG_2412.jpg\" alt=\"Hur m\u00e5nga? Ett helt sk\u00e4gg f\u00f6rst\u00e5s!\" width=\"378\" height=\"498\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2016\/07\/IMG_2412.jpg 378w, https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2016\/07\/IMG_2412-300x395.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2016\/07\/IMG_2412-228x300.jpg 228w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 378px) 100vw, 378px\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-4994\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hur m\u00e5nga? Ett helt sk\u00e4gg f\u00f6rst\u00e5s!<\/p><\/div>\n<p>Jag kommer v\u00e4l i sinom tid fram till mitt blogginl\u00e4gg d\u00e4r jag skriver n\u00e5got om Luthers bordssamtal i allm\u00e4nhet (som jag nu allts\u00e5 har l\u00e4st vilket ingen f\u00e5r missa) men det \u00e4r ju ocks\u00e5 lite sed h\u00e4r p\u00e5 bloggen att ta s\u00e5na h\u00e4r saker i bakv\u00e4nd ordning. H\u00e4r \u00e4r ett utryckt citat fr\u00e5n &#8221;bordssamtalen&#8221; d\u00e4r Luthers s\u00e4tt att l\u00e4sa bibeln f\u00e5r lite belysning. S\u00e5 h\u00e4r skriver han om &#8221;de stora talen i bibeln&#8221; -det vill s\u00e4ga det faktum att det alltid st\u00e5r med s\u00e5 h\u00f6ga siffror p\u00e5 m\u00e4nniskor som d\u00f6das n\u00e4r folken strider mot varandra och s\u00e5dant.<\/p>\n<blockquote>\n<p>&#8221;N\u00e4r man l\u00e4ser att det var ett stort antal ihj\u00e4lslagna som 80000 etc., <strong>s\u00e5 tror jag, att de ofta hade d\u00f6dat knappt 1000<\/strong>. Men menar hela folket. Den som sl\u00e5r ihj\u00e4l kungen, han sl\u00e5r ihj\u00e4l allt vad denne har. Om kungen av Frankrike slogs ihj\u00e4l med 10000 man, skulle man likas\u00e5 s\u00e4ga, att 80000 d\u00f6dats, eftersom han har s\u00e5 stor makt. <strong>Annars kan jag rakt inte f\u00f6rst\u00e5 det.<\/strong>&#8221; -Luther vintern 1542-43<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n<p>Det \u00e4r l\u00e4tt att anta att ju l\u00e4ngre tillbaka i tiden man kommer, desto mer bokstavligt (och kanske ocks\u00e5 enfaldigt och godtroget) l\u00e4ste folk bibeln. S\u00e5 \u00e4r det nog inte alls. M\u00e4nniskor f\u00f6rr hade f\u00f6rst\u00e5s ocks\u00e5 tankef\u00f6rm\u00e5ga och allt s\u00e5dant och reagerade p\u00e5 m\u00e4rkligheter i bibeln. Och s\u00e5 f\u00f6rs\u00f6kte man hitta n\u00e5got rimligt s\u00e4tt att l\u00e4sa de sv\u00e5ra st\u00e4llena p\u00e5. Som Luther g\u00f6r h\u00e4r.<\/p>\n<p>Det &#8221;bokstavstrogna&#8221; s\u00e4ttet att l\u00e4sa bibeln kom p\u00e5 allvar p\u00e5 1800-talet d\u00e5 det h\u00e4nde mycket i kyrkan. 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