{"id":694,"date":"2013-02-28T12:51:00","date_gmt":"2013-02-28T11:51:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2013\/02\/28\/ar-bibelns-historier-myter\/"},"modified":"2013-02-28T12:51:00","modified_gmt":"2013-02-28T11:51:00","slug":"ar-bibelns-historier-myter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2013\/02\/28\/ar-bibelns-historier-myter\/","title":{"rendered":"\u00c4r Bibelns historier myter?"},"content":{"rendered":"<table align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/www.artbible.net\/1T\/Gen0601_Noah_flood\/source\/12%20ST%20SAVIN%20PIERRES%20ROMANES%20ARCHE%20DE%20NOE.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"261\" src=\"http:\/\/www.artbible.net\/1T\/Gen0601_Noah_flood\/source\/12%20ST%20SAVIN%20PIERRES%20ROMANES%20ARCHE%20DE%20NOE.jpg\" width=\"400\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Noas ark, en myt?\u00a0<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Jag har sista tiden skrivit utifr\u00e5n n\u00e5gra antika myter. N\u00e4mligen &#8221;<a href=\"http:\/\/vagenixp.blogspot.se\/2013\/02\/har-du-en-minotaurus-i-garderoben.html\">har du en Minotaurus i garderoben?<\/a>&#8221; Och &#8221;<a href=\"http:\/\/vagenixp.blogspot.se\/2013\/02\/surrad-vid-masten-som-odysseus.html\">Surrad vid masten som Odysseus<\/a>&#8221;. D\u00e5 fick jag denna viktiga och intressanta fr\u00e5ga av Johannes:<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-GaNRUjeIBHs\/USumlU8pcVI\/AAAAAAAAChU\/_kgh7KdObvg\/s1600\/mytkommentar.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"84\" src=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-GaNRUjeIBHs\/USumlU8pcVI\/AAAAAAAAChU\/_kgh7KdObvg\/s640\/mytkommentar.jpg\" width=\"640\"><\/a><\/div>\n<p>Jag ska f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka ge mig p\u00e5 ett svar. Det \u00e4r ett stort \u00e4mne men h\u00e4r \u00e4r i alla fall en b\u00f6rjan.<\/p>\n<p>Jag har skrivit tidigare att \u00e4ven om vi till vardags anv\u00e4nder ordet myt i betydelsen &#8221;n\u00e5got som inte st\u00e4mmer&#8221; s\u00e5 anv\u00e4nder man det annorlunda i vetenskapliga sammanhang. En myt \u00e4r en historia som s\u00e4ger n\u00e5got p\u00e5 djupet om v\u00e5ra m\u00e4nskliga levnadsvillkor och vad det \u00e4r att vara m\u00e4nniska. D\u00e4rf\u00f6r skulle man kunna s\u00e4ga att \u00e4ven om myten har en osannolik handling eller \u00e4r konstig p\u00e5 m\u00e5nga s\u00e4tt s\u00e5 \u00e4r det \u00e4nd\u00e5 sann p\u00e5 ett djupare plan. Svaret p\u00e5 fr\u00e5gan \u00e4r nog b\u00e5de ja och nej. Bibeln inneh\u00e5ller m\u00e5nga myter men den g\u00f6r just d\u00e4rf\u00f6r samtidigt anspr\u00e5k p\u00e5 att beskriva hur v\u00e4rlden \u00e4r beskaffad, om \u00e4n p\u00e5 ett annat s\u00e4tt.<\/p>\n<p>Det d\u00e4r var det korta svaret. Sedan m\u00e5ste vi komma ih\u00e5g att bibeln rymmer v\u00e4ldigt m\u00e5nga olika slags texter. Allt ifr\u00e5n skapelseber\u00e4ttelsen till Paulus brev. En del texter kan betraktas som myter, andra inte. Den s\u00e5 kallade urhistorien i f\u00f6rsta mosebok med skapelse, Noas ark och Babels torn ger ett t\u00e4tt och mytiskt intryck.<\/p>\n<p>Det finns ingen enighet mellan alla kristna om hur viktigt det \u00e4r om de bibliska ber\u00e4ttelserna \u00e4r historiskt korrekta. Det har tydligen rasat en stor debatt i den frikyrkliga bloggv\u00e4rlden under vintern om ifall Jonas bok \u00e4r historiskt sann, om det \u00e4r viktigt, och om det \u00e4r det p\u00e5 vilket s\u00e4tt. Sj\u00e4lv tycker jag oftast inte de fr\u00e5gorna \u00e4r s\u00e5 intressanta. <\/p>\n<p>Jag tror dock man m\u00e5ste komma ih\u00e5g att varje g\u00e5ng vi ber\u00e4ttar en ber\u00e4ttelse v\u00e4ljer vi att ber\u00e4tta den utifr\u00e5n det vi tycker \u00e4r po\u00e4ngen. Vi s\u00e5llar bort ov\u00e4sentligheter och f\u00f6rst\u00e4rker m\u00f6jligtvis en del element. Dan Andersson beskrev ber\u00e4ttandet bland gubbarna i skogen som att &#8221;Ingen av oss \u00e4r n\u00e5gon l\u00f6gnare men vi \u00e4r goda ber\u00e4ttare&#8221;. Det s\u00e4ger en hel del. Ingen text i Bibeln \u00e4r &#8221;bara&#8221; historieskrivning. B\u00f6ckerna om Israels folks historia \u00e4r fr\u00e4mst ber\u00e4ttelser som f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker beskriva Gud. Evangelierna \u00e4r skrivna f\u00f6r att beskriva h\u00e4ndelser men framf\u00f6rallt f\u00f6r att leda l\u00e4saren till relation med Jesus sj\u00e4lv, han som uppst\u00e5tt och finns ibland oss.<\/p>\n<p>Alltid och i alla l\u00e4gen b\u00f6r man l\u00e4sa bibeltexter med \u00f6gonen \u00f6ppna efter vad de vill s\u00e4ga. Det \u00e4r en bergs\u00e4ker regel oavsett hur det \u00e4r i \u00f6vrigt med historicitet eller inte.<\/p>\n<p>Med allt det sagt ska jag nu s\u00e4ga hur jag sj\u00e4lv t\u00e4nker. H\u00e4r kan man s\u00e4kert f\u00e5 kritik men k\u00f6r i vind.<\/p>\n<p>M\u00e5nga bibelber\u00e4ttelser blir mest begripliga om man ser dem som rena myter. Skapelseber\u00e4ttelsen \u00e4r ett exempel p\u00e5 text man inte ska l\u00e4sa alltf\u00f6r bokstavligt, samtidigt s\u00e4ger den (och liknande texter i f\u00f6rsta mosebok) en otrolig massa saker som ligger bortom vetenskapens m\u00f6jligheter. Varf\u00f6r finns allting? \u00c4r materien god eller bara en boja f\u00f6r oss? Finns det n\u00e5gon mening med att jag finns?<\/p>\n<p>Andra ber\u00e4ttelser tror jag \u00e4r alldeles n\u00f6dv\u00e4ndiga att f\u00f6rst\u00e5 som att de h\u00e4rstammar fr\u00e5n historiska h\u00e4ndelser. Detta g\u00e4ller framf\u00f6rallt de centrala delarna av evangelierna. Den kristna tron st\u00e5r och faller med fr\u00e5gor som: Har Jesus funnits? Dog han p\u00e5 korset? Uppstod han fr\u00e5n de d\u00f6da? Det ber\u00e4ttas om C.S Lewis att innan han blev kristen hade han sv\u00e5rt att f\u00f6rst\u00e5 sig p\u00e5 evangelierna. De handlade om mytiska ting men liknade inga myter han sett p\u00e5 annat h\u00e5ll (Lewis var i sj\u00e4lva verket expert p\u00e5 antika myter). Slutsatsen tog tid att acceptera men sedan menade han att evangeliet var en <i>sann myt<\/i>. Med samma m\u00e4rkliga kraft som han upplevde i de antika men samtidigt \u00e4r evangelierna vittnesb\u00f6rd om n\u00e5got de f\u00f6rsta kristna sa var sant och hade sett med egna \u00f6gon.<\/p>\n<p>Summan av detta \u00e4r att Bibeln \u00e4r en r\u00e4tt annorlunda bok \u00e4n de flesta t\u00e4nker idag. Man f\u00e5r l\u00e4sa den utifr\u00e5n vad den \u00e4r, inte som om den vore instruktionsbok f\u00f6r livet, naturvetenskapligt uppslagsverk och allt annat i ett.<\/p>\n<p>Kanske kan det h\u00e4r vara till hj\u00e4lp f\u00f6r n\u00e5gon d\u00e4r Bibeln blivit ett hinder f\u00f6r tron? Kanske v\u00e4cker det nya fr\u00e5gor? H\u00f6r g\u00e4rna av dig med dem nedan eller p\u00e5 annat s\u00e4tt!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Noas ark, en myt?\u00a0 Jag har sista tiden skrivit utifr\u00e5n n\u00e5gra antika myter. N\u00e4mligen &#8221;har du en Minotaurus i garderoben?&#8221; Och &#8221;Surrad vid masten som Odysseus&#8221;. D\u00e5 fick jag denna viktiga och intressanta fr\u00e5ga av Johannes: Jag ska f\u00f6rs\u00f6ka ge mig p\u00e5 ett svar. 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