{"id":736,"date":"2013-01-31T09:09:00","date_gmt":"2013-01-31T08:09:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2013\/01\/31\/det-dar-med-att-fira-nattvardgudstjanst-ofta\/"},"modified":"2013-01-31T09:09:00","modified_gmt":"2013-01-31T08:09:00","slug":"det-dar-med-att-fira-nattvardgudstjanst-ofta","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2013\/01\/31\/det-dar-med-att-fira-nattvardgudstjanst-ofta\/","title":{"rendered":"Det d\u00e4r med att fira nattvard\/gudstj\u00e4nst ofta&#8230;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Det h\u00e4r har jag inte sj\u00e4lv t\u00e4nkt ut utan f\u00f6ljande \u00e4r en enda l\u00e5ng saxning fr\u00e5n Torbj\u00f6rn Lindahls blogg.<\/p>\n<\/p>\n<div><a href=\"http:\/\/torbjornlindahl.blogg.se\/2013\/january\/nattvardsbruket-2.html\">http:\/\/torbjornlindahl.blogg.se\/2013\/january\/nattvardsbruket-2.html<\/a><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<p>En del tycker att man inte ska fira nattvard f\u00f6r ofta, kan man det? L\u00e4s och bed\u00f6m:<\/p>\n<table align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-oHUMQh-OBJ4\/T0qgYmGs2sI\/AAAAAAAAAFY\/eAdcu-hiiog\/s1600\/IMG_0036.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"300\" src=\"http:\/\/3.bp.blogspot.com\/-oHUMQh-OBJ4\/T0qgYmGs2sI\/AAAAAAAAAFY\/eAdcu-hiiog\/s400\/IMG_0036.JPG\" width=\"400\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Nattvard ofta ofta, p\u00e5 Filippinerna<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>&#8221;Om man vant sig vid en tradition d\u00e4r nattvard mottas ganska s\u00e4llan s\u00e5 \u00e4r det sj\u00e4lvklart att det k\u00e4nns &#8221;naturligt&#8221;. Det kan jag v\u00e4l f\u00f6rst\u00e5 och acceptera. Det som blir problematiskt \u00e4r n\u00e4r man f\u00f6rs\u00f6ker kristligt motivera endast sporadisk nattvardsg\u00e5ng med att det skulle vara riktigt. Ett argument som ofta framf\u00f6rs \u00e4r att man inte ska g\u00e5 f\u00f6r ofta f\u00f6r d\u00e5 riskerar det bli slarvigt. Och man m\u00e5ste &#8221;vara beredd&#8221;. Vad betyder det?<\/p>\n<p>Om n\u00e5gon s\u00e4ger att vederb\u00f6rande inte vill g\u00e5 till nattvarden f\u00f6r ofta pga behovet att &#8221;vara beredd&#8221;, d\u00e5 \u00e4r min motfr\u00e5ga: vad \u00e4r det f\u00f6r beredelse du \u00e4gnar dig \u00e5t inf\u00f6r varje nattvardsg\u00e5ng som \u00e4r s\u00e5 noggrann att den tar 4-6-8 veckor i anspr\u00e5k? Vad \u00e4r det du g\u00f6r? Exakt? Ber\u00e4tta! \u00c4gnar du dig \u00e5t att dagligen rannsaka dig inf\u00f6r ett av de tio buden, och sedan upprepar detta fyra g\u00e5nger (d\u00e5 kan du g\u00e5 i nattvarden var fyrtionde dag)?? Urs\u00e4kta om jag \u00e4r aningen raljant h\u00e4r, men jag menar att man m\u00e5ste avsl\u00f6ja s\u00e5dant som l\u00e5ter fromt men i sj\u00e4lva verket bara \u00e4r prat.<\/p>\n<p>Jag tror att verkligheten \u00e4r en helt annan. Det \u00e4r bara s\u00e5 att det vi g\u00f6r s\u00e4llank\u00e4nns h\u00f6gtidligare. J\u00e4mf\u00f6r med denna liknelse ur livet. T\u00e4nk en barnfamilj d\u00e4r morfar och mormor bor i s\u00f6dra sverige 150 mil bort. De gamla har bara m\u00f6jlighet resa upp kanske vartannat \u00e5r och familjen sj\u00e4lv orkar bara ge sig ut p\u00e5 en motsvarande l\u00e5ng semester vart annat \u00e5r. Summa: barnen tr\u00e4ffar bara sin mormor och morfar en g\u00e5ng om \u00e5ret. Jag p\u00e5st\u00e5r att det blir ganska h\u00f6gtidliga tillf\u00e4llen (kanske med gl\u00e4djet\u00e5rar) de f\u00e5 g\u00e5nger man tr\u00e4ffas. Men om ist\u00e4llet, morfar och mormor bor i grannhuset, eller rent av uppe p\u00e5 \u00f6verv\u00e5ningen i samma g\u00e5rd; om barnbarnen kan springa \u00f6ver eller uppf\u00f6r trappen en eller flera g\u00e5nger varje dag; om dom ofta f\u00e5r vara med morfar i snickarboden eller hj\u00e4lpa mormor med kakbaket; om dom n\u00e4stan n\u00e4r som helst kan fly iv\u00e4g fr\u00e5n sina br\u00e5kiga sm\u00e5syskon och f\u00e5 sitta en stund i lugn och ro med saft och bulla i mormors k\u00f6k, vad h\u00e4nder d\u00e5? Blir barnen med automatik oartiga och vanv\u00f6rdiga? Kommer dom inte att uppskatta sin morfar och mormor ordentligt bara f\u00f6r att dom tr\u00e4ffar dom s\u00e5 ofta? Skulle barnbarnen bli lyckligare om de gamla fanns l\u00e4ngre bort s\u00e5 de s\u00e5gs mer s\u00e4llan? Nej, alla inser att den t\u00e4tare kontakten bara g\u00f6r gemenskapen vardagligare och naturligare.<\/p>\n<p>\u00c4r det inte samma sak med v\u00e5rt m\u00f6te med v\u00e5r Fader och Fr\u00e4lsaren i den heliga nattvarden: oftare g\u00f6r det vardagligare och naturligare, mindre (uppstyltat) h\u00f6gtidligt, men absolut inte vanv\u00f6rdigt. Utan just &#8211; i ordets b\u00e4sta mening &#8211; naturligt.<\/p>\n<p>Vad s\u00e4ger Luther i katekesen? Vem \u00e4r r\u00e4tt v\u00e4rdig g\u00e5 till Herrens bord? Den som &#8221;tror de orden: f\u00f6r dig utgiven och f\u00f6r dig utgjutet&#8221;. 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