{"id":8344,"date":"2020-12-08T07:00:27","date_gmt":"2020-12-08T06:00:27","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/?p=8344"},"modified":"2020-12-07T22:50:59","modified_gmt":"2020-12-07T21:50:59","slug":"en-prast-laser-the-first-christmas","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2020\/12\/08\/en-prast-laser-the-first-christmas\/","title":{"rendered":"En pr\u00e4st l\u00e4ser &#8221;the first christmas&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-style-default\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"750\" height=\"841\" src=\"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2020\/12\/IMG_6810.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-8345\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2020\/12\/IMG_6810.jpg 750w, https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/files\/2020\/12\/IMG_6810-300x336.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 750px) 100vw, 750px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Jag har lyssnat p\u00e5 &#8221;The first Christmas -What the gospel really teach about Jesus birth&#8221; av Marcus Borg och Dominic Crossan. Det \u00e4r f\u00f6rsta g\u00e5ngen jag l\u00e4st n\u00e5got av dem men det \u00e4r v\u00e4ldigt k\u00e4nda bibelvetare inom det man (i brist p\u00e5 b\u00e4ttre) kan beteckna som &#8221;liberala&#8221; l\u00e4gret i teologin. De d\u00e4r l\u00e4gren har med tiden blivit v\u00e4ldigt ointressanta f\u00f6r egen del men det \u00e4r nog lite bra att veta f\u00f6r l\u00e4saren.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jag har haft mycket beh\u00e5llning av boken. Allt ifr\u00e5n genomg\u00e5ngar av vad man kan dra f\u00f6r slutsatser av uppr\u00e4kningarna av Jesus sl\u00e4kttr\u00e4d till vad Matteus respektive Lukas (de b\u00e5da evangelisterna som skriver mest om Jesus f\u00f6delse) har f\u00f6r po\u00e4nger med det de beskriver, till det som faktist \u00e4r en tredje skildring av Jesus f\u00f6delse i uppenbarelseboken. Samt om jungfruf\u00f6dseln och annat.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Borg och Crossan drar sig inte f\u00f6r att s\u00e4ga rakt ut <strong>att Lukas och Matteus hittade p\u00e5 en hel del p\u00e5 egen hand <\/strong>n\u00e4r de skrev sina f\u00f6delseskildringar. Man kan i och f\u00f6r sig t\u00e4nka ganska olika om hur mycket historiska h\u00e4ndelser det finns till grund till det som nu st\u00e5r skrivet men vi kan alla vara \u00f6verens om att de detaljer och scener evangelisterna bem\u00f6dade sig om att ta med i sina v\u00e4ldigt dyra pergamenthandskrifter alla fanns med f\u00f6r att de tyckte de var betydelsefulla f\u00f6r de po\u00e4nger evangelisterna vill f\u00f6ra fram. De vill (s\u00e5 h\u00e4r \u00e4r det med allt i evangelierna och stora delar av bibeln) inte bara s\u00e4ga hur det var utan de vill ocks\u00e5 och framf\u00f6rallt g\u00f6ra det p\u00e5 ett s\u00e4tt som f\u00f6rklarar vem Jesus \u00e4r. Sen \u00e4r fr\u00e5gan om evangelisterna bara valt ut de bitar de tyckte var viktigast eller om de lade till helt fritt s\u00e5nt de tyckte borde vara med.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>F\u00f6r Lukas st\u00e4lls Jesus hela tiden i kontrast till kejsaren i Rom (jag skrev f\u00f6r l\u00e4nge sedan om det h\u00e4r &#8221;<a href=\"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2015\/08\/14\/jesus-med-kejsarens-titlar\/\">Jesus med kejsarens titlar<\/a>&#8221;) och uppenbarligen fanns det m\u00e5nga fler detaljer hos Lukas \u00e4n jag trodde som kunde sammanf\u00f6ras med det. <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Matteus skriver i sin tur p\u00e5 ett s\u00e4tt som hela tiden g\u00f6r paralleller till Mose och utt\u00e5get ur Egypten. Jesus blir en andra Mose och pl\u00f6tsligt \u00e4r det den egna kungen Herodes som f\u00e5r spela Faraos roll. Ocks\u00e5 h\u00e4r fanns det fler detaljer \u00e4n jag visste om sedan tidigare.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jag tror man kan f\u00f6rh\u00e5lla sig ganska olika till den h\u00e4r boken. F\u00f6r en del kanske det k\u00e4nns hotfullt f\u00f6r att det k\u00e4nns som att bibelns sanning undergr\u00e4vs. F\u00f6r andra kan det k\u00e4nnas sk\u00f6nt och tv\u00e4rtom som att man tar bibeln p\u00e5 allvar utifr\u00e5n det den sj\u00e4lv faktiskt vill f\u00e5 sagt. Jultexterna g\u00f6r ju hur man \u00e4n ser p\u00e5 det allt de kan f\u00f6r att f\u00f6rklara att Jesus \u00e4r fr\u00e4lsaren. Jag tar sj\u00e4lv alla dagar i veckan hellre en bok som tar fr\u00e5gorna p\u00e5 allvar \u00e4n n\u00e5gon av alla gulliga julskildringar som det \u00e4r s\u00e5 gott om. Jag tycker gott jag kan rekommendera boken.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Jag t\u00e4nkte ta med lite av detta med kejsaren och annat n\u00e4r jag ska tala med konfirmanderna om julen p\u00e5 s\u00f6ndag. Det \u00e4r trots allt viktigt att visa dem att det h\u00e4r med julevangeliet inte \u00e4r en saga.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Det blev inte s\u00e5 mycket detaljer fr\u00e5n boken m\u00e4rker jag. Vad har du sj\u00e4lv f\u00f6r f\u00f6rh\u00e5llande till jultexterna i bibeln?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Jag har lyssnat p\u00e5 &#8221;The first Christmas -What the gospel really teach about Jesus birth&#8221; av Marcus Borg och Dominic Crossan. Det \u00e4r f\u00f6rsta g\u00e5ngen jag l\u00e4st n\u00e5got av dem men det \u00e4r v\u00e4ldigt k\u00e4nda bibelvetare inom det man (i brist p\u00e5 b\u00e4ttre) kan beteckna som &#8221;liberala&#8221; l\u00e4gret i teologin. 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