{"id":993,"date":"2012-09-03T07:49:00","date_gmt":"2012-09-03T05:49:00","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2012\/09\/03\/offertoriet-och-kyrkans-skatter\/"},"modified":"2012-09-03T07:49:00","modified_gmt":"2012-09-03T05:49:00","slug":"offertoriet-och-kyrkans-skatter","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogg.svenskakyrkan.se\/vandravagen\/2012\/09\/03\/offertoriet-och-kyrkans-skatter\/","title":{"rendered":"Offertoriet och kyrkans skatter"},"content":{"rendered":"<table align=\"center\" cellpadding=\"0\" cellspacing=\"0\">\n<tbody>\n<tr>\n<td><a href=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-9HD7yrlSnqQ\/UCgcgtqrakI\/AAAAAAAAAYY\/gfORBVdUSlo\/s1600\/IMG_0292.JPG\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" border=\"0\" height=\"480\" src=\"http:\/\/2.bp.blogspot.com\/-9HD7yrlSnqQ\/UCgcgtqrakI\/AAAAAAAAAYY\/gfORBVdUSlo\/s640\/IMG_0292.JPG\" width=\"640\"><\/a><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr>\n<td>Fattig kyrka p\u00e5 Filippinerna, men ser du skatterna p\u00e5 bilden?<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<p>P\u00e5 kyrkiska spr\u00e5ket finns det en hel del ord som kan vara sv\u00e5ra att f\u00e5 grepp om. Den ovana gudstj\u00e4nstfiraren hittar i v\u00e4rsta fall &#8221;lovs\u00e4gelse&#8221; (mycket uppskattande ord till Gud), &#8221;f\u00f6rb\u00f6n&#8221; (b\u00f6n <i>f\u00f6r<\/i>\u00a0olika personers v\u00e4lg\u00e5ng) och &#8221;prefation&#8221; (inledande lovs\u00e4gelse (se lovs\u00e4gelse) till nattvarden) i <i>agendan<\/i> utan n\u00e5gon f\u00f6rklaring av vad det handlar om. Jag t\u00e4nkte h\u00e4r skriva n\u00e5got om <i>ett<\/i> s\u00e5dant ord. N\u00e4mligen &#8221;<i>offertorium<\/i>&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>I h\u00f6gm\u00e4ssan betecknar ordet \u00f6verg\u00e5ngen till nattvardsdelen i gudstj\u00e4nsten. Den psalm man brukar sjunga kallas f\u00f6ljdriktigt f\u00f6r &#8221;offertoriepsalm&#8221;.<\/p>\n<p>Ordets inneb\u00f6rd har f\u00f6rst\u00e5s med offer att g\u00f6ra, det vill s\u00e4ga om att b\u00e4ra fram saker inf\u00f6r Gud. 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